147. Job searching: How to safely step into the unknown - with Janet Sernack.

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The Job Hunting Podcast Episode 147

Janet Sernack is a consultant and coach who helps other coaches like me, leaders, and organizations to innovate, adapt and grow through disruption. In our conversation for this episode of The Job Hunting Podcast, we discuss how job seekers can use innovation concepts to be comfortable with the discomfort of the job search.

Janet's expertise is in helping her clients understand what it means to be innovative and adaptive to change. You see, you may aim for innovation all you want, but you won't get it if you don't start acting differently, structuring your business differently, and being agile to adopt and adapt to change as opportunities and threats come along. This also applies to career advancement and job hunting: you may want it, but to achieve your goal, you will need to adopt and adapt to changes as professional opportunities and threats come along!

Can you see the similarities between innovation and career advancement?

This is why I thought of bringing Janet along for a chat on the podcast. Listening to Janet would be interesting for those who are ambitious in their careers. Janet works with businesses on the cusp of innovation, so it's great to hear about what she has identified as important trends in the workplace so that you can incorporate them into your career plans and professional development.

What you will learn by listening to this episode:

  • One of the biggest challenges for employees and employers: How to reconnect

  • Best practices Janet has observed in workplaces around the world

  • How to connect through values

  • What it means to lead with a heart and connect at a heart level

  • How can professionals break the inertia to achieve their goals?

  • Why is it important to be comfortable with the uncomfortable

  • Key sources of discomfort

  • How can professionals safely step into job search in 2022

This conversation happened live on my LinkedIn, Facebook page, and YouTube channel. We then edit it and add it here as a podcast episode. So if you hear weird noises or if we are interacting with people watching, now you know why.


9:26 Life update from Janet: What has she been doing since episode 23?

13:56 One of the biggest challenges for employees and employers: How to reconnect

16:41 Best practices Janet has observed in workplaces around the world

19:24 What does it mean to lead with a heart and connect at a heart level?

30:37 How can professionals break the inertia to achieve their goals? 

33:57 Key sources of discomfort

40:15 How to face the fear of failure

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Hello, I’m Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I’m also an executive coach, job hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach corporate, non-profit, and public professionals the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress. 

If you are 1) an ambitious professional who is keen to develop a robust career plan, 2) looking to find your next job or promotion, or 3) you want to keep a finger on the pulse of the job market so that when you are ready, and an opportunity arises, you can hit the ground running – then this podcast is for you. In addition to The Job Hunting Podcast, I have developed a range of courses and services for professionals in career or job transition. And, of course, I also coach private clients. 

So there is no excuse – I’m determined to help you! I want you to feel empowered, nail your next job, and have the career you want.

Enjoy the episode and ciao for now!


Renata Bernarde | Job Hunting Expert

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