130. The “Big Burnout”: Post-Pandemic stress and other factor affecting your wellbeing at work - with Natalie Moore and Lisa Saunders

career planning wellbeing women's career Apr 18, 2022
The Job Hunting Podcast Episode 130

Natalie Moore and Lisa Saunders are the ultimate work-wives team. They have a keen interest in women in the workplace, especially when they should be thriving professionally, but peri-menopause can cause havoc to women’s careers. Two brains are better than one, and they decided to go into business together to improve workplace wellbeing. 

In this episode, we discuss the importance of goal setting and how it can impact career and personal outcomes. We look at the importance of working as a team to achieve career and personal goals and how their blended strengths align and complement each other for their business to thrive.

We then look at the impact of the two years of the pandemic on our mental and physical health. I’ve called this episode “The Big Burnout” due to many client work this year dedicated to getting professionals out of their funk and back into life and work. So, it was great to reflect on this trend I have noticed anecdotally with two health and wellness experts.

And finally, we then tackle one of my favorite topics: menopause. There is so little research and public knowledge of the impact of hormonal imbalances and career progression. For some women, perimenopause can severely and negatively affect their careers. Lisa and Natalie work with professional women and their workplaces to educate and promote better policies for women’s career advancement.

I hope you enjoy this episode. Please connect with me on social media or reply to my newsletter and let me know how this episode helped you or someone you know.

About our Guests:

Through their company, Own Your Health Collective, Natalie Moore and Lisa Saunders help women achieve holistic health and well-being for work and life. They have been those same ambitious women who have spent days juggling the many roles and expectations, all while oblivious to the power within them. Both are fully accredited coaches who have come together with complementary passions around health and well-being by using their expertise to help women discover whole health. Natalie has specialist understanding and skills in mindset coaching and using yoga and mindfulness as life-changing tools to support whole health. Lisa focuses on making change manageable by teaching practical and achievable strategies around nutrition for optimal health and wellbeing. 

To learn more about their work and connect with them:


[07:47] The importance of goal setting and the importance of working together

[11:31] What do your strengths mean, and how to use them

[18:59] The Big Burnout: After two years of the pandemic, it’s catching up with us

[21:32] What can companies do to help their employees with health and wellbeing

[28:23] The importance of building good habits 

[30:51] Menopausal symptoms and how they can affect women in the workplace

[35:41] How companies can help women going through menopause

[38:34] How women can prepare for hormonal imbalances at work 

[40:09] What is perimenopause?

[53:37] Renata’s three reasons to love perimenopause

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Hello, I’m Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I’m also an executive coach, job hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach corporate, non-profit, and public professionals the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress. 

If you are 1) an ambitious professional who is keen to develop a robust career plan, 2) looking to find your next job or promotion, or 3) you want to keep a finger on the pulse of the job market so that when you are ready, and an opportunity arises, you can hit the ground running – then this podcast is for you. In addition to The Job Hunting Podcast, I have developed a range of courses and services for professionals in career or job transition. And, of course, I also coach private clients. 

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