121. Impostor syndrome and fear of success: A conversation with Michelle Redfern.

career advancement job hunting leadership women's career Feb 14, 2022
The Job Hunting Podcast Episode 121

We have a very different episode on The Job Hunting Podcast, where I have swapped chairs with a past guest, Michelle Redfern, from episode 37, and she is the one interviewing me.

Michelle has recently launched her podcast with her business partner Mel Butcher, The Lead to Soar Podcast, and they are killing it. Sticking to their strength in supporting women in leadership, they have lined up a great guest list, so I recommend that you check it out, follow, subscribe, and leave them your support in the form of a 5-star ranking and a great review, because nothing makes a podcast host happier and receiving Feedback believe me. 

This interview in its entirety is on Michelle's podcast. Of course, I have edited her intro out with her blessing and repurposed it for you to listen to. There are great episodes in her show you should listen to, like the Agile Leader and Giving and Receiving Feedback which I think are topics you wouldn't find here on The Job Hunting Podcast. Still, they are such great complimentary conversations to what we discuss in this show, yes? Let's enjoy this episode.

Links mentioned in this episode:


  • [06:55] What Renata does and why
  • [10:00] How do people know when to reach out to Renata to get coaching?
  • [16:40] Why do people not want to play big.
  • [18:04] Is there a difference between men and women when it comes to job hunting
  • [24:24] Tips on how to apply for jobs
  • [31:40] The difference between applying for a job post-pandemic vs. pre-pandemic
  • [33:37] Robots are reading your resume
  • [35:00] The tale of the Sword of Damocles, and how it has influenced our fear of success
  • [40:23] What to do when you're "tapped on the shoulder"?

About Michelle Redfern:

Michelle Redfern is the founder of Advancing Women, an enterprise providing research and advisory services on workplace gender equality, inclusion, and diversity. She is co-host of A Career that Soars!, the founder of women's network Women Who Gets It, co-founder of CDW (Culturally Diverse Women), and the Lead to Soar podcast host.

Michelle is an experienced Non-Executive Director with Board and advisory roles in the finance, sport, purpose, and supply chain sectors. She is a proud Ambassador for Flexible Working Day and Girls Uniform Agenda. She has held executive leadership roles at ASX & FTSE listed companies NAB, Telstra, and Serco during her 30-year corporate career.

Michelle is a graduate of the AICD, holds an Executive MBA (Distinction), and has various accreditations in organizational diversity and coaching. She is an in-demand speaker and is a regular contributor to the discussion and advocate for gender equality and inclusion in sports and business workplaces.

Michelle's Podcast, Lead to Soar, is a podcast for career-woman looking to advance inside an organization (i.e., working for companies, governments, non-profits). The show is hosted by Michelle Redfern and Mel Butcher and is a production of A Career that Soars!

Are you new to The Job Hunting Podcast? 

Hello, I’m Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I’m also an executive coach, job hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach corporate, non-profit, and public professionals the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress. 

If you are 1) an ambitious professional who is keen to develop a robust career plan, 2) looking to find your next job or promotion, or 3) you want to keep a finger on the pulse of the job market so that when you are ready, and an opportunity arises, you can hit the ground running – then this podcast is for you. In addition to The Job Hunting Podcast, I have developed a range of courses and services for professionals in career or job transition. And, of course, I also coach private clients. 

So there is no excuse – I’m determined to help you! I want you to feel empowered, nail your next job, and have the career you want.

Enjoy the episode, and ciao for now!


Renata Bernarde | Job Hunting Expert

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To my friends and colleagues who are currently job hunting, this podcast is for you. Renata Bernarde and her stellar line up of guests very generously share their perspective, advice, behind-the-scene secrets, tips, and anecdotes. "It's called The Job Hunting Podcast (it is what it says on the tin!) Guests include Anita Ziemer, Michelle Redfern, Mohit Bhargava. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Run. Don't Walk." - LinkedIn post shared by Amber Knight.

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